❦ TEXTCAST · No. 007 · SEO
“Most founders are optimizing for a number that doesn't mean what they think it means.”
By Thijs Smudde

❦ The founder, at a glance
- Early-stage · building in public
- VerifiedDR · TrueDR
- TrueDR — trust + traffic + age + spam
- April 2026
- Soest, Netherlands
- X · build in public
❦ Part · The problem with DR
On why the number every founder chases was never built to mean what they think
Most founders track Domain Rating as a vanity metric. What's actually wrong with how people use it today?
DR was built to measure one thing — the strength of your backlink profile on a 0–100 curve. Founders treat it like a report card for their entire site. But DR doesn't know whether anyone actually visits you, whether the links pointing at you are real or bought, or whether Google trusts you. You can buy your way to a DR of 40 in a month and get zero traffic for it. The problem isn't DR itself. It's that a proxy became the goal. People optimize for the number instead of the thing the number was supposed to approximate — and then wonder why the traffic never shows up.
So you built TrueDR as an alternative signal. How is it calculated differently, and what does it measure that Ahrefs DR misses?
TrueDR starts from the same backlink data, then layers in the things that separate a real, growing site from an inflated one: actual traffic, domain age, trust signals, and spam. So when your backlinks look strong but nobody's visiting — and the links don't hold up — your TrueDR comes in lower than your DR. On purpose. That gap is the whole point. DR tells you how many doors point at your house. TrueDR tells you whether anyone's walking through them.
Can you walk us through a founder who had a “good DR” but was invisible in search — and what their TrueDR revealed?
Classic case. A founder came in proud of a DR in the 40s, built fast through link exchanges and a few paid placements. In search: invisible. His TrueDR came back in the low 20s. When we broke it down, the backlinks were real domains — but domains with almost no traffic of their own. Authority passing from empty rooms. Thin content, a young domain, no trust signal. The DR was technically accurate and completely misleading. Once he stopped chasing more links and started earning them from sites that actually had audiences, the TrueDR and the traffic moved together — because now they were measuring the same reality.
❦ Part · Building the authority loop
Partnerships → backlinks → authority → visibility → more partnerships

You talk about the DR/TrueDR growth loop. Break it down — what does that loop look like for an early-stage SaaS founder?
It's a flywheel, and the trick is that every turn is earned, not bought. You verify your site so your real numbers are known. You get matched with sites in your category at a similar authority and — this is the part that matters — real traffic. You partner: a genuine backlink, mention, or bit of co-marketing, both directions. Those links lift authority that's actually supported by traffic, so your TrueDR rises for real. Higher verified authority unlocks partnerships with bigger sites. Then you go again. Nothing here is a shortcut. You're not buying links, you're earning position in a network — and position compounds.
The authority loop, in one place
How an early-stage founder turns one turn of the flywheel into the next:
- 01Verify your site — get your real TrueDR and enter the network
- 02Get matched with category-relevant sites at similar authority + real traffic
- 03Partner — a real backlink, mention, or co-marketing, both ways
- 04Authority rises for real, because it's backed by traffic and trust
- 05Higher verified TrueDR unlocks partnerships with bigger sites
- 06Repeat — each turn compounds instead of resetting
VerifiedDR bakes partnership requests into the free tier. Why tie them directly into the authority tool instead of keeping them separate?
Because measuring your authority and growing it are the same job — and separating them is exactly why most SEO tools leave you staring at a dashboard with no next move. Ahrefs will tell you your DR. It won't introduce you to the site that should be linking to you. I wanted the tool that shows you the number to also hand you the action that moves it. Partnerships are the mechanism, so they live right where you see the metric. And it's in the free tier because the loop only works if founders can actually start it — a paywall in front of your first partnership kills the whole thing.
How many partnerships does it take before a founder sees measurable authority lift? Is there a threshold?
There's no magic number, but the honest answer is: fewer than people expect, and it's about quality, not volume. A handful of partnerships with sites that have real traffic in your category will move TrueDR more than fifty low-quality links ever will. I tell founders to think in terms of the first five real ones. Five verified partners who actually send trust and traffic — that's usually where the curve starts to bend.
❦ Part · What's actually working
The channel that surprised him, and why building in public is distribution
You launched in April 2026 and already have a growing user base. What distribution channel surprised you most?
X, by a wide margin — but not the way I expected. I assumed I'd grow by explaining TrueDR. What actually moved the needle was showing my own numbers in public: my DR, my TrueDR, the gap between them, the partnerships, week over week. Founders don't want another SEO explainer. They want to watch someone do the thing with real stakes. The build-in-public thread outperformed every “here's how DR works” post I ever wrote.
You're building on X very publicly. How intentional is that — and does it change how you prioritize features?
Completely intentional. Building in public isn't a personality choice for me — it's the distribution strategy. It's the same authority loop applied to attention: every honest update is a small backlink to trust. And yes, it changes prioritization. When you ship in front of people, you build the thing they're asking for in the replies, not the thing sitting on your private roadmap. The feedback loop is tighter and the vanity features die a lot faster.
A lot of your audience is B2B SaaS. What's the one authority action they could take this week that would compound the fastest?
Find three sites in your exact category that already have real traffic — not the biggest names, the most relevant ones — and give them something worth linking to before you ever ask. A genuinely useful data point, a small tool, a teardown, a partnership that helps their audience too. One real link from a trafficked, relevant site this week beats a month of directory submissions. Start the loop with generosity, and it compounds on its own.

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❦ Lightning round
Quick answers, short clock.
Most underrated SEO move for SaaS founders?
Earning one link from a site with real traffic in your niche — over chasing ten from high-DR sites nobody actually visits.
Biggest DR myth you want to kill?
That a high DR means you'll rank. DR is a proxy, not a promise — traffic and trust decide.
Tool in your stack you'd never give up?
Honestly, X. It's my analytics, my distribution, and my feedback loop in one.
What you're building next on VerifiedDR?
Deeper partnership matching — auto-surfacing the exact sites that should link to you, ranked by TrueDR fit.
One founder you'd put on a textcast?
Someone quietly doing programmatic SEO the right way — compounding while everyone else argues about DR.
❦ Key takeaways
- ●TrueDR over DR: measure authority by trust and traffic, not just backlink count — the gap between the two is where the truth is.
- ●Run the authority loop: verify → partner with trafficked, relevant sites → earn real links → rise → partner bigger. Start with your first five.
- ●Building in public is distribution, not just transparency — show your real numbers, build what the replies ask for.
- ●This week: give three relevant, trafficked sites something worth linking to before you ask. One real link beats a month of directory submissions.
❦ Interviewed by Girish Kotte for FoundersHub
❦ Where to find them
- VerifiedDR — grow your authority in search & AI
Verified sites, TrueDR scoring, and partnership matching that turns authority into real traffic. Free tier available.
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